Existence Of Absolute Musical Values (Wamble Postulate)

Date: 25 Apr 2003 15:38:20 GMT
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Anybody want to wrangle with this?
Absolute musical values exist
There is proof (there'd have to be or you couldn't make the first statement)
Therefore it is true that Absolute Musical Values exist - since they are true,
there must be Absolute Musical Truths.
therefore they are deriveable by mathematical rules
therefore a machine could be built to determine them - they're absolute, after
all.
So, an Absolute Musical Truth computer could be built that could evaluate any
statement pertaining to musical truth or, and this is important, its capacity
to determine Absolute Musical Truth, and it would always answer truthfully. I
mean it has to be able to tell that it can tell the truth, so to speak.
OK so far?
Now, if it's a machine, it has a program of some sort, a huge one, but it will
exist. Call it P for program. and the program is P(AMT) for short.
Now consider this statement: 'The machine whose program is P(AMT) will never
admit that this is true'. Call this statement A. Note that the statement says
AMT will never say A is true. Right?
Now, ask the machine for calibration purposes to determine if A is true.
If it is, you cannot rely on its results since it would say a falsehood is true
- it is the machine whose program is P(AMT)
If A is false, then the machine will never say A is true, but that's what the
first statement said.
I don't think the machine would work. How then would we be able to determine
absolute musical truth and know absolutely that we did it? What do you think?
Clif