Re: First Christian Rock Album: NOT Larry Norman

Date: 5 Jun 2003 11:04:36 -0700
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"Dave Paisley" <email-address-deleted> wrote in message news:<rV0va.832481$S_4.842256@rwcrnsc53>...
> "rose" <email-address-deleted> wrote in message
> news:email-address-deleted...
> > Dave Paisley <email-address-deleted> wrote:
> >
> > >Juan wrote:
>
> > >> Ask his fellow artists for a comment about this. They will tell you.
> > >> Try and convince Ashley Cleveland
> > >
> > >Ashley who?
> >
> > Oh, I simply can't pass up such a great opportunity for a shameless plug!
> >
> > http://www.ashleycleveland.com
> >
> > Educate thyself.
>
> Been there, done that. Passed on the t-shirt. Remain unimpressed.
>
> I bet 99 in 100 people on the street wouldn't have a clue who she is, nor
> care if you told them.
>
> Again, for the umpteenth time, if she's the shining example of Larry
> Norman's influence, big whoop.
>
> dave
I am new to this list, a fan of Larry Norman, and admittedly have not
slogged through this entire thread with all of its iterations.
However, after spending about twenty minutes trying to get up to
speed, I think I have a basic grasp of what is going on here. Chime in
as desired.
The original thread was intended to state that Larry was not the first
artist to produce a Christian Rock album. Now the thread seeems to
have moved from that to "Does that mean he isn't the father of
Christian Rock" to the "Of course he's not 'cause he hasn't influenced
enough people to qualify". Here are my thoughts.
It seems that there are many people on this thread who seem to think
that Larry Norman rightfully deserves the title of father of Christian
Rock. These people are attempting to substantiate this by citing the
agreement of many people prominent in the field Larry is allegedly
father of.
Dave however, seems to remain unimpressed by the inclusion of any of
the prominent-in-their-field people referenced because he is not
familiar with them, therefore he feels they have no value in this
argument. Those of you arguing the Pro-Larry-as-CCMDaddy argument are
not only being asked to prove your opinion, but the opinions of those
that you quote as having knowledge of the subject (and presumably more
knowledge than Dave has on this particular subject -- Contemporary
Christian Music). While he may have influenced a bunch of lightweight
Christians, he has no value currently because "nobody" has heard of
him. (Except those other people that Dave has also never heard of, and
they don't count.)
Arguing with this reasoning is useless. I know that if there is a
father of Swahilian Folk Music I probably will not be in a position to
argue for or against the validity of his title. I have no knowledge of
that genre. I guess I could jump up and down and argue that since I,
as a Tibetan Salsa Music afficianado, haven't heard of him or the
people he has influenced, and since he hasn't influenced my Tibetan
Salsa Music, then he couldn't rightfully be the Swahilian Folk Daddy
that others with a knowledge of that music claim him to be.
Hope that's at least as clear as the orange/oranges, yellow/lemons
analogy,
Renfroe