Re: eye 2 eye

Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:49:54 -0500
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Well I can't give an artist (because they all record the same P&W songs over
and over again) but I can give song titles.
Every Move I Make by David Ruis
This song doesn't explain itself. It mentions nothing about WHY every move
they make is in Jesus. (Like He died for my sins and rose from the dead.)
This is a very popular song in P&W circles. Christian need to be reminded of
what Jesus did for us too.
We Fall Down by Chris Tomlin
Again the lyrics (think about someone walking into a church) just talk about
one aspect of Christianity. Most churchs are doing fewer and fewer hymns (
Amy even said that she got most of her sermons through the hymns) and
turning to P&W.
I'm taking this a step forward...talking about P&W in church...just to let
you know.
Breathe by Marie Barnett
This is one of those is it about God or a boyfriend songs. Yeah it mentions
Daily Bread but to someone who not a Christian just hearing this song...say
at a friends house or walking into a church for the first time might be left
with questions.
I Could Sing of Your Love Forever by Martin Smith
It never addresses why they will sing of his love. Put yourself in the place
of someone whose not a Christian. They might not know who is being talked
about. God's name nor Jesus' name is ever mention. It's only referred to as
you.
I could go on but to me I've made my point. The only reason I am mentioning
P&W in the church is because I was thinking about those who are just walking
into church never before having heard the gospel...heck even turning on the
radio and hearing those songs. They might have only hear about Jesus through
a song but in church it's rare to hear Jesus' name mentioned in song
anymore. CCM is a whole other thorn in my side when it comes to the watered
down lyrics. I grew up listening to (of course) Amy Grant, 2nd Chapter of
Acts, Imperials and so many more who let you know what they were talking
about. Nowadays you don't know. I think if more Christians thought about it
from a persons postion who not a Christian we might get back to a more
Christ centered lyric. Now don't get me wrong I see nothing wrong with
crossing over to the pop/rap/country/r&b etc etc markets as long as the
intention is made known. The groups (Superchick, Stacie...) I had mentioned
earlier are what's popular in Christian circles and with the lyrics they
have you would never know they were Christian artists. That's what someone
who not a Christian is going to hear from their Christian friends or if they
flip through the radio and listen to it. They won't know they are listening
to a CR station. I see a slight trend in Christ Centered lyrics coming back
and I hope it stays. You are right that someone who's not a Christian most
likely won't listen to CR but they might have friends who are listening to
CCM in their presence...but they might not know it's Christian music.
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RMAAG newsgroup lurker since 1999
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"PearL" <email-address-deleted> wrote in message
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> >Martha E Wood"
>
> >Pearl I will repeat again
> >I have worked for Christian Radio, and 4 count them 4 christian
bookstores.
> >I have been listening to CCM music since I was little (around 3 or 4...I
> >remember Amy's Bridegroom being played on the radio.) I have listen to
(and
> >own) all types of music. And my husband has a VAST P&W music collection.
So
> >I have been exposed to quite a bit of P&W. Heck they played it over the
> >sound system ALL the time at the bookstores. I think you are the one who
> >hasn't bee exposed to too much P&W. Nowdays P&W is right alongside CCM
when
> >it comes to airplay. I also see no difference between CCM and CCM radio
that
> >you seem to have.
>
>
> ? I wasnt questioning your opinion of P & W... I just asked which
specific
> artists who sing P & W dont sing about Jesus cause I've never heard any.
I
> wasnt being flippant, I *really* wanted to know. lol
>
> And the point I was trying to make about CR is that... obviously the radio
does
> not play a wide variety of music. This includes secular radio stations.
They
> tend to pick the top 40 and play it to *death* until you think if you hear
> "that" song one more time you will rip your hair out. This is why I dont
> listen to the radio much. I like what I like and I dont care if the rest
of
> the general population likes it or not. Example - I've been listening to
Sara
> Groves LONG before she became "big" in CCM. And altho I dont have CR, I
know
> that praise music is big right now. I subscribe to CCM and keep up with
CCM
> trends via that and the Internet.
>
>
> > I try not to
> >listen to Christian radio anymore because all they play is the same songs
> >over and over and over again
>
> Exactly.
>
>
> >(really you're not missing anything if you
> >don't have it.)
>
> Eh, I dunno. I still think I'd rather flip on the radio and hear MWS for
the
> one billionth time, than to flip it on and hear
> all the sexual grunting hip hop rap crap that is saturating secular radio
right
> now.
>
>
> > Seriously every time I turn on the radio it's a MWS P&W song
> >or a Third Day song or Traveling Light by >Joel Hanson and Sara Groves
>
>
> lol I like all those artists (except never heard of Joel Hanson)...but if
I
> had to hear them 24/7 I would be sick of them too.
>
>
> >(sorry
> >it really bothers me that we have all these great songs out there and all
> >they play is a handful songs and they aren't even at top 40 station!!! ok
> >i'll calm down down.)
>
>
> That's what radio does tho... even secular radio. Which is why I almost
never
> listen to radio.
>
>
> > Look Pearl we each walk down a different road in this
> >life. Be both think the other hasn't been exposed to enough P&W.
> >Can we
> >agree to agree to disagree. I am coming from a different postion than you
> >(having worked at the radio station and 4 bookstores that sold this
music.)
> >I don't know exactly what you've been exposed to when it comes to CCM &
P&W.
> >From my postion it doesn't seem like you've been expose to too much
> >Christian Music (especially if you didn't know who Mark Schultz is.) But
> >that doesn't mean that you haven't it's all about perceptions isn't it?
So
> >I'll agree to disagree with you and hope you will do the same.
>
>
> I was merely *asking* which P & W artists that you've listened to that
dont
> praise Jesus (out of curiousity) because all the P & W music I own does.
I was
> not being accusatory or trying to start a fight. Sorry I asked... BTW -- I
> have *heard* of Mark Schultz, I said I didnt own any of his music.
However, I
> do own hundreds of Christian cds (of all different gendres from pop to
rock to
> rap to gospel to alternative, etc including P& W ones) so I do think
I've
> been exposed to quite a bit. I do not claim to be a Christian music
expert, as
> I'm sure there are TONS of cds I havent heard. That's why I was asking
*you*
> for specific artist names. PS - Third Day is my FAVORITE group! ; )
>
> ~ PearL~
> "Just when you think you've seen it all.....
> You see some more..." --Moochacha!!!
>
>