Re: Adopting children, adopting a country

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:21:54 +0100
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"Windforest" <email-address-deleted> wrote in message
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TOP POST: Not true Stephan. I know or speak from experience. I became a
citizen and naturalized at four years old. I am not considered a
Canadian citizen. If I were they would find my birthparents for me. I
was told no because I am NOT a Canadian citizen. I remember at four
saying the pledge of allegiance but I do not remember denouncing my
birth country or my citizenship there. That choice was made for me by
the USA.
How long ago did you check this out? Are you certain that the person giving
you this information was correct? Is there no way to appeal this?
Helen
Windforest
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Re: Adopting children, adopting a country
Group: alt.adoption Date: Sat, Jul 5, 2003, 2:45pm (MDT-1) From:
email-address-deleted (Stephen Gallagher)
How can any of them legally adopt a new country as their own when at
least two of them can barely speak let alone any or them understand the
nature of what they are porporting to agree to? I hope they don't have
to forfeit their citizenship by birth to their original country in order
to become US citizens.
No they don't. Children who become US citizens due to their adoption, or
due to the naturalization of their parents do not take the US
naturalization oath, with it's statement of renunciation. They are free
to keep their original citizenship for life, as far as the US is
concerned. Their original countries have to agree also.
It should be noted, by the way, that while adults who naturalize must
take the US oath of naturalization, which as I mentioned does have a
statement of renunciation. This renunciation is made only to US
officials, and whether or not it actually causes loss of the person's
original citizenship is a matter for the original country. In many
cases, the original country does not view the US oath as having any
legal effect under their laws. When this happens, the naturalized adult
ends up with both his original citizenship and US citizenship.
Can US citizens have dual citizenship?
Yes. A good website which explains this, and which points to the US
government sites on the topic, can be found at
http://www.richw.org/dualcit/
Stephen Gallagher
Re: Adopting children, adopting a country
Group: alt.adoption Date: Sat, Jul 5, 2003, 2:45pm (MDT-1) From:
email-address-deleted (Stephen Gallagher)
How can any of them legally adopt a new country as their own when at
least two of them can barely speak let alone any or them understand the
nature of what they are porporting to agree to? I hope they don't have
to forfeit their citizenship by birth to their original country in order
to become US citizens.
No they don't. Children who become US citizens due to their adoption, or
due to the naturalization of their parents do not take the US
naturalization oath, with it's statement of renunciation. They are free
to keep their original citizenship for life, as far as the US is
concerned. Their original countries have to agree also.
It should be noted, by the way, that while adults who naturalize must
take the US oath of naturalization, which as I mentioned does have a
statement of renunciation. This renunciation is made only to US
officials, and whether or not it actually causes loss of the person's
original citizenship is a matter for the original country. In many
cases, the original country does not view the US oath as having any
legal effect under their laws. When this happens, the naturalized adult
ends up with both his original citizenship and US citizenship.
Can US citizens have dual citizenship?
Yes. A good website which explains this, and which points to the US
government sites on the topic, can be found at
http://www.richw.org/dualcit/
Stephen Gallagher