Re: What We Stand For In Jazz

Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 13:06:59 GMT
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:10:36 GMT, "Green Tea" <email-address-deleted>
wrote:
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>"Mr Zed" <email-address-deleted> wrote in message
>news:email-address-deleted...
>> Dear Friends
>>
>> We do not enjoy being accused of trolling. We believe that our stand
>> has been consistent and firm, whereas a troll might try to change
>> their views in order to excite the masses. At any rate, let us
>> summarise some of the main points that seem to come up again and
>> again:
>>
>> * We are generally against the use of electric instruments in jazz.
>> (Note the *generally*)
>>
>> * We firmly oppose fusion, avant-con "jazz", and other deviant musics
>> *if* they are claimed to be jazz.
>>
>
>I'll say it again even though some politcally correct types in this
>newsgroup get all freaked out.
>
>Zed you're a music nazi. Now this is bascially a joke taken from Seinfeld
>for whoever complains. If you're offended I don't care what you think.
>
>But maybe my music nazi comment should be more about the WWII nazis. Zed
>says that avant-con music (i undestand this to be free jazz) is deviant.
>Well the nazis banned art that they considered deviant. So if Zed was in
>charge he would probably lock up any one that plays this deviant devil's
>music.
>
>I don't think Zed has a clue about music and doesn't understand it no matter
>how much he harps about it in this newsgroup.
I disagree with Zed over free jazz but I think you are reacting too
far. Why can't people tone the rhetoric down a bit and make their
point without being so melodramatic?
When was it ever zed that he wanted to ban free jazz? There is a
difference between being against something and wanting to ban it. A
huge difference. The interesting question I'd like to ask Zed is:- if
someone else tried to ban free-jazz how far would you be prepared to
go to defend this deviant music?
If Zed wants to talk about jazz he should be more precise about what
his disagreements are with electric instruments, free-jazz, etc. For
instance is he still against free-jazz when David Murray plays it?
Zed - you half-invited the response you got by being simultaneously
all encompassing and ambiguous.