Re: People Want Too Sing

Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 20:51:22 +0100
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[No this is cool we can play this anyway... It aint too much to jam ;]
The positive message of the song is what has me spell bound.
An inspiring song with as many ways to interpret it, has you care
to consider. It relationship to its times makes it as potent to our
times as ever, indeed that whole album because it was of its time
has within it the spirit to lift us in our times. As you say,
'phoenix-like'.
The piece was about the connection between songs and thought,
which fits this example to a tee. To hear the words repeat over
and over so that the song becomes you, without you even thinking
of its effects. Singing and Smiling so that the memory of the song
is bound, to the power of that emotion.
Musically the song was of course inspired by the great African
funk innovator Manu Dibango with his hit "Soul Makossa.", but
that doesn't detract from the song, indeed its fitting that this song
has that African lineage, a lineage to connect across time to the
other place.
If you ever get to hear the original you'll hear where the phrasing
for "Mama-se mama-sa mama-ku-sa" and that part of the rhythm
arrangement comes from. this in no way takes away from the song.
In fact this discover just adds to the layers of strength encoded
in the song.
> I have heard that Michael, that unceasable perfectionist, still
>wasn't satisfied
I've heard this too, and just on the level of production you might
agree when compared to the level of the other songs on Thriller,
but in terms of sentiments, in terms of the power to lift the soul,
there isn't another song on the album like it. Michael's looking
to judge the song on the basis of drama, but there are any number
of ways to create an atmosphere for a song besides the overly
dramatic. This song succeeds in bringing joy, that's as much as
anyone can hope for a song.
[The song might have become some thing else again, if if the intro
were anthemic - on a par to can you feel it.]
"John Lucas" <email-address-deleted> wrote in message news:email-address-deleted...
> Alan that's interesting that you would put that MJ lyric at the end.
> Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' is one of my ALL-TIME favorite MJ
> songs. He was inspired when he came up with that part. Well he
> was inspired when he came up with this whole damn song!
>
> But the way most of the song was sung attitudinal & all & then
> this affirmation/declarational part that you put at the end here....
> It was totally different from how the rest of the lyric part was
> formed. Feels phoenix-like.
>
> And you know what gets me the most? I have heard that Michael,
> that unceasable perfectionist, still wasn't satisfied with how this
> song came out. He didn't feel that he expressed everything he wanted
> in the song. Whew coulda fooled me! Everything from the rhythm
> to the percussion to the funny delivery of those lyrics to the
> "Mama-se mama-sa mama-ku-sa Help me sang it!"..EVERYTHING
> was top-notch!
>
> Wonder why he didn't see the song for what it is. It's one of his
> masterpieces. Anyway just had to comment on that. I know that
> wasn't what this post was supposed to be about.
>
> John Lucas
>
>
> "alan jones" <email-address-deleted> wrote in message
> news:email-address-deleted...
> > === People Want To Sing
> >
> > People want to sing, to claim a song as their own, they want to
> > share the words and spirit of a song. Not just as a fashion, but
> > an understanding of ourselves, of life.
> >
> > Beyond production and hype, words and ideas matter, the clothes
> > or words, the shape it creates for emotions, the blues the reds the
> > other colour it allows.
> >
> > People need to sing, not rap or shout, not copy without emotion,
> > not bark or curse, but sing ,moved by the thoughtful combination
> > of words and music.
> >
> > The trend of mature pop artists to cover the classic show tunes
> > of yesterday says something about our time, and the limits of its
> > modern voice.
> >
> > It not enough to shake your head to the predictable groove, its
> > not enough to dance, if it were we would be content to dance to
> > a dripping tap, to any and everything.
> >
> > Sometimes what we need most, is the voice that says, what you
> > need to hear. The mind that transplant itself upon you, lifting you,
> > shaping and directing you, to better and greater. Sometimes what
> > you want, is to sing out loud a feeling, knowing that feeling is
> > heard and shared too.
> >
> > People need songs like they need to smile. The blanket of thought
> > to wrap itself around you, "things will get better trust me", a thought
> > to build and support you, language is thought as thought is language,
> > The song, a shape for thoughts.
> >
> >
> > "Lift your head up high, and scream out to the world
> > I known I am someone, and let the truth unfurl
> > No one can hurt you now, because you know what's true
> > Yes, I believe in me, so you believe in you"
> >
> > Wanna be starting something - Michael Jackson - Thriller
> >
>