Re: two words from one word

Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:43:54 GMT
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"David Thomas" <email-address-deleted> wrote in message
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> In article <CorRa.7721$email-address-deleted>, "Paavo P"
> <email-address-deleted> writes:
>
> >sound changes should happen everywhere in language, yes....
> >what should I think about this kind of situation:
> >proto-language having word like let's say: "bal"
> >and daughter language two words like "mal" and "pal".
> >Could this happen without outsider help (another lang borrowing
> >"bal" change it and then giving it back to daughter language) or
> >could bal -> mal & pal happen?
> >if there's sound change e.g. b- > m- where did p- came from
>
> Maybe the proto had 'mbal' and in some cases it was simplified to 'mal'
and in
> other cases to 'pal,' the b gaining voicing where the m had originally had
it,
> becoming p.
my point was that could one language derive two words through sound change
from one parent word.
if there's sc b- > m- there should be nothing left another sound change (b-
> p-) because of the previous
sound change.
I bothered (don't be they say, just relax and take your medication...)
with uralic words
like *tuxli- (<PIE dhuH-li-) "wind; to blow"
-->>
there's "tuule-" (wind; to blow) but also "laulu" (a song) and "löyly"
(steam in sauna;spirit), the latest ones from "luule-".
there's also other t- & l- parallels. Are those l-words just loan of other
time.
>
> I'm sure more experienced linguists here can pop out an example from some
real
> languages...
>
> Sleep, Fate, Death, and I sat one sunday down at tea.
> Fate offered up his Ziggy mug before I poured,
> Sleep yawned in his PJs, seeming mildly bored,
> And Death politely asked, "Another pirouline?"
> - Vae