Re: What Legit music is missing....

Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:45:45 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz
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On 9 Jul 2003 15:24:09 -0500, "Mark Kleinhaut"
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>
>First, what do you mean by "method used to produce it"? If you mean improvisation
>vs. preconception/repetition, this is hardly a matter that be given slight
>distinction. Also, this directly pours into what a listener indeed cares
>about, at least in live performance.
>
>Why would historians consider jazz part of the history, or has you say "a
>form" of classical music? I guess I think of the two as cats and dogs (apples
>and oranges) with so many differences and distinctions that they would never
>be merged or confused for each other.
>
"Classical music" is a big tent. The phrase refers to written music
of all sorts through a period of many centuries. It also refers to a
long tradition of mastery of musical performance.
In my view of the term, classical music refers to that music which is
worthy of a lifetime of serious study and performance. Jazz is worthy
of many lifetimes of serious study and performance.
It is this "serious study worthiness" that has already included jazz
in almost every conservatory of music in the USA. You will not find
country, rock, polka, or many other styles in the conservatories, but
you do find jazz. Jazz is already half way to being classical music
in the minds of the people who run music schools.
"Method used to produce it" refers to the inclusion of improvisation
in a performance. Jazz generally includes improvisation. Classical
generally does not include improvisation.
My basic point is that to the listener, the method used to produce the
music is secondary, perhaps irrelevant to the music itself. (I don't
particularly care how my car was made as long as it runs well.)
I think the vast majority of the audience (90% or more) has no concept
at all of how we make music. (The questions I am asked all the time
on gigs indicate this.)
Tim
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