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Re: God, I hate the RIAA, and I'm a musician!
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:12:18 -0400
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Peter Gottlieb <email-address-deleted> wrote in message
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>"Bob Kos" <bkos at infionline dot net> wrote in message
>> You'll find burned copies of LP's & CDs in my car and in my
>> home stereo. Been doing it for years.
>
>The RIAA considers this theft.
I didn't know that. I disagree with them. I should be able to backup
legally purchased music to preserve the original media. Screw them on that
policy. I'm a criminal now I guess.
>
< SNIP>
>
>Ah, ok. So recording off the FM band is ok in your book? That's pretty
>public - by definition - and easily downloadable.
No - when did I even imply that?? If you don't pay for it, you shouldn't
have it recorded in analog or digital form in your posession. Period. It's
theft.
>
>Your point seems to be how one gets a file determines its legality. Not
>that what either of thinks matters, but my thinking goes along the lines of
>that when you purchase music you are purchasing the right to listen to that
>music (personally and with company), under your control. You may also give
>away or sell that right, but only that one copy of it. That means you can
>make as many copies you want - so long as they are for your own use only.
>You can't go giving them away and all that. Now, if you were to then
>download or otherwise acquire another copy of something you already
>purchased a "license" for, my feeling is that such an action is perfectly
>legal.
I agree whole heartedly. That's my whole point. Unfortunately, there are
many others who don't subscribe to this logic. Their behavior - in part at
least - is what's causing the big controversy.
>
>If you bought a license for Windows XP and your computer was destroyed,
even
>Microsoft will allow you to reload it onto a new machine.
Right. But you aren't allowed to share your license for XP with 1, 10 or
100,000 other computer users. Everybody has to buy his / her own license.
And when MS enacted true registration for XP, the public outcry came from
thiose who have grown used to free MS operating system upgrades over the
years. The party's over in that arena and so it should be in the music /
video arena too.
>
>> Maybe if they
>> steal YOUR livelyhood en masse with zero regard for the consequences to
>you
>> or your peers, you might feel differently?
>
>Been there, have had that done to me. Made more stuff.
But it wasn't OK. It was a theft just the same.
>
>> Or is it still OK because they
>> wouldn't hire your talents anyways?
>
>I've done plenty of free work, as have a lot of others in the Open Source
>world. I've volunteered TONS of my time to those who couldn't afford me,
>recycling computers into schools and libraries, for example.
Your generosity is admirable and I genuinely respect that. The fact is,
however, that you have VOLUNTEERED your efforts. So have I, but probably
not at a level you have. Not everybody is interested in volunteering their
time and talents and should not be forced to by thieves of their work.
>
>> Or maybe they think your talents suck
>> so you shouldn't be paid for your time and efforts after the fact??
>
>With me, my customers and clients get a guarantee. If my work sucks, I
>don't get paid. Seems right to me! I back my work. Now, can you return
>opened music or software if it sucks or is disappointing?
I can't argue that. If one of my customers is disappointed, I'm face to
face with a problem RIGHT NOW. Point well received
>
>

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