Re: MJ and James Brown: download the VIDEO!!!!

Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 02:58:26 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.music.michael-jackson
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MYopinion wrote:
> What criminals performed on that show? R. Kelly was the only one who
> performed who has been accused of a crime. You all can't blame black
> people for giving R. Kelly props, when pop radio is the one who is
> playing his music to death. Pop radio is the reason that "Ignition" went
> to number one.
I wasn't specifically referring to anyone on the show. Concerning R.
Kelly, he's innocent until proven guilty.
> As far as rap and hip-hop music perpetuating violence, what about rock
> music? I hear about more violence, drug overdoses, suicide from rock
> stars and music more than I do with rap and hip-hop. Rap and hip-hop
> music does not perpetuate any of those things in their music. They do
> perpetuate the image of "bling, bling", money, cars, scantily clad
> women( so does rock), etc.
Correct, much rock music, especially 70s and 80s era rock, glorified drug
use and casual sex. But surely you aren't saying that some rap and
hip-hop artists don't write songs that do the same thing.
Hip-hop music has virtually legitimized the drug dealer in inner-city
communities. Through their music and videos, hip-hop artists have
glamorized "Ballers".
Hip-hop music preaches that young black men who dissociate themselves from
childhood friends who have chosen a criminal lifestyle are sellout Uncle
Toms. It preaches that "real brothers" do dirt (commit crimes) and are
willing to kill or beat down a n*gger if he's been disrespected.
Since the slayings of Tupac Shakur and the Notorious B.I.G., we're no
longer shocked when we hear that a rapper is involved in some type of
violence or lawless activity.
> As long as rap remained "underground", mainstream America could have
> cared less about what it portrayed. When white teenagers, and that is
> the reason that is has blown up, started buying the music, then there
> became a huge outcry against it. The rappers are not holding guns and
> forcing mainstream America to buy this music. Now with Emmien portraying
> more violence in his lyrics and videos than any black rapper has ever
> done, who is mainstream America going to blame? Are they still going to
> blame black rappers or Emminen?
I don't know about mainstream America, but I blame the entire culture. It
doesn't matter to me if the artist is black or white. I despise Eminem as
much as I despise 50cent.
> To try and paint rap and hip-hop music as the only culprits in this
> cauldron of music degeneration is unfair and shallow.
They're not the only culprits, but these musical forms are the most
popular among young people now and therefore have the most influence. Just
as no one can deny that the rock music of the 1960s espoused drug use and
"free love" and antisocialism, and greatly influenced the youth of the
day, they can't deny the negative effect of some rap and hip-hop on
today's youth.
And I've never heard a popular rock group write anti-black lyrics to match
anything like the racist gem below from Bone Thugs-N-Harmony:
"Won't be satisfied until the devils--I see them all dead. . . . my
brother is sending me more guns from down South. . . . pale face. . . .
it's all about brothers rising up, wising up, sizing up our situation. . .
. you be fucking with my turf when you be fucking with my race; now face
your maker and take your last breadth; the time is half-past death. . . .
it's the Armageddon. . . . go into the garage; find that old camouflage. .
. . cracker-shooting nightly"
Or THIS one from Eminem's "buddy" Dr. Dre:
"Bust a Glock; devils get shot. . . . when God give the word me herd like
the buffalo through the neighborhood; watch me blast. . . . I'm killing
more crackers than Bosnia-Herzegovina, each and everyday. . . . don't bust
until you see the whites of his eyes, the whites of his skin. . . . Louis
Farrakhan . . . Bloods and CRIPS, and little old me, and we all getting
ready for the enemy"
--
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