Re: What is to become of goth?

Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 14:31:44 +1000
Newsgroups: aus.culture.gothic
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On Wed, 14 May 2003 11:29:48 GMT, email-address-deleted
(Greylock) wrote:
>Last episode Trayce <email-address-deleted> said:
>>but theres an alternative side too...
>
>Yeah. And it's bland.
Well thats your opinion ;) I'dve agreed once TBH but thats before I
heard the stuff I now like (hint: we're talking stuff closer to Herbie
Hancock than Steps, you know...)
>But does it challenge? Does it make you think?
Yes, because I'm a musician! I love complex music. It doesn't have to
be played on a "real instrument" to be good music.
>I say no.
>It may make you feel, but does it make you think?
See above, but even if it does just make me feel (and what good music
doesn't?), why does it always have to make me think too? I mean much
of this stuff is instrumental for starters. Does that mean all
non-lyric music is feel-and-not-think?
Do you need to have someone ranting about politics to make your music
valid?
>I can only go on what I know (and as you know I know more than I'd like),
>and what I read in the street press.... but what made acid house suck in
>the 1980s still makes techno suck in 2003.
I'd actually be interested to know what stuff you're applying this to.
The reason I ask is because I will say for the record I quite dislike
psytrance and the current goth/industrial bleepy dance, when not
inpenetrable noise, is pretty much the same thing. Loads of high-end
bleepy keyboard noises and muchos repetition. Bores me STUPID, that
does.
>>Hell it isnt even one scene! Once upon a time people reeling off words like hardhouse,
>>trance, psytrance, deep house, hiphop, jungle, bla bla bla sounded
>>highly stupid to me.
>
>But IT IS STUPID.
>I mean, hip hop doesn't fit into that list for a start.
Why not? This was entirely my point - there is no "scene" that it
doesnt belong to. Theres as much difference between deep house and hip
hop (for example) as there is between dixieland jazz and george
Clinton's funk music.
You see?
>You have been assimilated.
>Was resistance futile?
Probably, there were boys and drugs involved after all ;)
>>This from my personal recent experience too I might point out :)
>
>I know.
>And nothing you have said makes any real sense.
Well, its hard to explain why one likes what one does, I guess.
>Not that I think this makes you a bad person.... yet. :)
Ha!
Trayce (day one on the wagon, and counting... slooowlly)