Hip Hop Music
Re: Hip-hop intellectuals
Date: 21 Jul 2003 11:41:08 -0700Newsgroups: rec.music.hip-hop
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I could not help but respond to the comment that there is no hip-hop subculture. I can't speak for the rest of the world, but in New York a subculture centered on hip-hop is very much alive. This community does not recognize Nelly and other wannabe hip-hop artists as part of their community. Nelly, and artists like him, are pop stars that feed off the market we created. Hip-hop culture is composed of 4 artistic elements; mc'ing (or rapping), dj'ing, break dancing and graffiti. (Plus the newly added 5th element of knowledge, which means "hip-hop intellectuals" do actually exist somewhere, I suppose.) This group of artists is what our community is composed of and you can trust that there are sufficient numbers to make our community a strong one. In addition, the fact that our community is made up of so many different cultural backgrounds is exactly what makes us what we are. Our diverse backgrounds don't eliminate us from being a subculture any more than the diverse backgrounds of U.S. citizens keep America from being a country. If that was the case, you could just classify all of us as living in an English colony. Aside from that, the bulk of our hip-hop community is made up of proactive members and we fight for what we believe in (I would say more aggressively than the average member of society). In saying that, most of us do vote, myself included, because we don't like the way things are done and feel it is our responsibility to be part of the solution. There is a fine line between people that listen to hip-hop and people that live hip-hop. If you have any doubts that the community I described exists, go to some hip-hop events. (I don't mean the commercial feeding frenzies sponsored by your local radio station.) This week is the Rock Steady Crew's 26th Anniversary and there are events each night this week (rocksteadycrew.com) that will be packed with members of our community. Visit scratch.com and see their work with 'truth' (the anti-smoking campaign), or go see an ITF or DMC battle (hip-hop.com or dmcworld.com), or order a great book at hiphopimmortals.com with some awesome photography of hip-hop artists, or go to www.homegrownmedia.net, a group of independent hip-hop artists that won't succumb to commercial influences. If you're still in doubt, I really don't care. It's just amusing to me how many people, like my 'good friend' Bill O'Reilly, don't realize the force behind the music we make. I can argue these points until I'm blue in the face, but non-belief is like alcoholism, you can't and won't change until you see for yourself; and some people never do. Long live the Art and Peas... Homegrown a.k.a Bill Green a.k.a The Site Seer
