Re: wd u say Rap is Hip Hop without music?

Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 02:13:09 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Size: 1,352 bytes

John Washburn wrote:
>
> " ~ rob ~" wrote:
>
> > what's the diff?
>
> Hip Hop is a cultural movement incorporating various types of (African
> American and African American inspired) music, poetry, art, dance,
> film etc.
>
> Rap is a type of vocalization. Rap songs are ones which feature that
> type of vocalization in a dominant way (as opposed to certain types of
> R&B or whatever which might share rhythmic and textural simularities).
>
> Rap music, as a genre, is an expression of Hip Hop in a particular (if
> broadly defined) form.
Time was, before one needed to distinguish that a cultural movement
existed (since almost all rap took part in that movement), the two terms
were pretty interchangeable, and there's some blurring of the terms as a
result--ie. rap is the vocal, hip-hop is the culture is a decent rule of
thumb, but not an absolute semantic law.
(I bring this up lest anyone get confused when someone uses "hip-hop"
just to refer to the music, etc. It's alright. The only absolute,
really, is that no one ever calls the vocal "hip-hopping"... OK, no one
actually says "hip-hopping" period.)
Actually now that "hip-hop" is being applied to anything and everything
with the slightest hint of "urban" to it (ie. J-Lo is 'hip-hop'), I'm
about ready to start using "rap" to refer to the grassroots again.
Peece,
T. Tauri