Re: My one and only contribution to this Tholen -thread

Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 01:31:33 GMT
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Marcello Penso <email-address-deleted> wrote in
news:email-address-deleted:
> In article <email-address-deleted>,
> email-address-deleted says...
>
>>
>> an analysis of his form might shed light on a certain kind of music,
if
>> the discussion were really about music.
>>
>
> Would you use the combinations of vowels and consonants to determine
> rhythm and melody, or the one-liners as a tempo setter, or a beat? I
> think the departure would have to start at either the letter level, or
> the phrase level.
probably start with the form itself, the ejaculations. some music which
involved shots of sound alternated with little melodic themes. a
sentimental music comes to mind. something from 1946 maybe? where the
lyric has to be tough but the music is sappy. i don't hear a classical
sound, unless it's an imitation of Stockhausen?
>
> Maybe the three refrains:
>
> 'note: no response'
> 'classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim'
> 'what you think is irrelevant'
>
> be configured into a kind of pentameter?
>
> Setting it up to a rap beat was easy, but I'm wondering what kind of
> rhythmic propensity there might be here (by propensity, I mean the kind
> of 'latent' flow there is in Beowulf, or similar poems).
yes. no, never so connected as in a poem. and rap is the redemption of
any lyric... even the phonebook as lyric.
maybe a theological approach, and then find a similar church music? he's
one of the fellows of purgatory arguing that you are not pure, yourself?
because of the fact that you are talking to someone in purgatory? and,
that [his] pure reason shows that he is really in heaven? artists and
priests have to live in both worlds, and i think he intuits this, knows
that we can turn his filth into beauty, and it drives him mad. but, isn't
that the plan of purgatory? are we not agents of god? =)
>
> Marcello
>