Re: HFM 1970s-80s: Comparing LP ~ KA ~ RDB ~ Bappi

Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:35:22 -0500
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"Tambi_Dude" <email-address-deleted> wrote in message
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> Sure. ARR was quite good initially. They are not ultimate compositions,
> but neither were RDB's.
> Frankly RDB is DA most overrated composer. He was very good for his
> time (70s/80s). But when claims are made that was DA best ever, it
> becomes a joke, at least for me. His songs just can not be compared
> in quality to Madan Mohan, Roshan, SDBurman or even Salil Chaudhury
(though
Right on and I fully agree that claiming RDB is "the best composer ever" is
stretching it. I a very big fan of RDB have no problem accepting that.
Obviously the people you are talking about havent heard enough of the others
or are trying to compare RDB with the present day composers or even his
contemporaries for that matter.
Among all, I feel Madan Mohan can easily be crowned the Melody king... I
have not heard so many melodious compositions (mostly sung by Lata) from
anybody else.
> his output was very less). I just take it as a reflection of times if
> young fellas keep trotting how great RDB was. Well there got to be a
> reason why the standard of music has gone down. With listeners like the
> present generation, what else you expect? I seriously doubt whether
> the music of Chitralekha would have been appreciated today.
> I have 3 audio tapes of Lata's classical songs and I realize that
> had those songs be composed today, it would have been rejected en-masse.
> Do you expect a 20-25 yr old person to appreciate Man Mohana Bade Jhute.
Agreed completely again. But RK, here's the crux of the matter. You by
virtue of having heard a lot over such a period of time could make these
judgements. ARR or Nadeem Shravan are the choice of the new generation and
that's precisely one of the reasons, why re-mixes from erstwhile hits
packaged with sufficient sex and violence makes so much money these days. I
think you can kiss melody good bye for a long long time.
However I personally rate ARR infinitely better then any of his
contemporaries (Note: this excludes Illayaraaja :-) ). He has composed
reasonably good stuff given the standards today. The first time I heard
"Hello Mr. Ethikachhi....blah blah..Padhinettu vaiyasa aachhi"...it had a
very different ring to it and I got hooked on to Iruvar. Likewise the songs
in Sapnay (Minsaara whatever). I thought "Strawberry kanne....." was a novel
extrapolation/experiment of operatic themes in Indian Film Music. Not many
have attempted such a thing and gotten away with a hit...That to me is
talent and a desire to experiment... I like that in MDs. Oh yes...I prefer
to listen to ARR's songs in Tamil as I dont understand quite a lot of the
words and lets me concentrate on the composition as a whole. Well, the
Hindi/Telugu ones are a different matter. Well...actually that's not true
either with song writers mixing up English and others (Spanish in Shakalaka
Baby) in the songs.
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> My two sons (age 7 and 3) already show a marked preference for ARR songs.
> They obviously don't know who he is, but they insist on listening to
> his songs when we go out on a long distance. What does it tell about a
> MD if kids with zero knowledge prefer his songs :-). T
Shows that the songs are popular with somebody atleast...... Contrast this
with what Anand Milind and Nadeem Shravan have to offer.
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> Right now they are in India and I shudder when they will come back,
> they will be 'updated' with more of latest ARR trash, which I will
> be forced to listen.
Good Luck with that. I however think you will do just fine and might like
one odd song here and there too.
kamesh
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